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Franks
July 2nd, 2002, 12:55 AM
There are natural resources found on Mars. Coal and iron and who knows what else (if there was life there probebly even oil)

What if multinationals like Shell would claim peaces of Mars to mine. Or Arabian sjeiks draining water from Europe (the moon).

The benefits of these exampels would be that metal would be as cheap as plastic and the Arabian world and more deserts would be as green as the gardens of Eden.

But in the case of Europe, sientists are buissy building a satelite to investigate life under the European ice.

What should be allowed?

Daniel
July 2nd, 2002, 09:08 AM
Hi Franks
I fail to see the logic in your question, can you clarify it....

Franks
July 2nd, 2002, 09:51 AM
Is it a positive or a negative thing to mine alien planets, even if sience will have to chip in?

(Sorry if I wasn't clear enough)

Daniel
July 3rd, 2002, 09:38 AM
IMHO you don't have a lot of choice on this - If you want to make spaceflight a regular thing, then there must be a reason, and one of the best reasons to go to other planets are in order to exploit them - be it as tourist/colony/mining/military....

andyquinn
July 3rd, 2002, 11:50 AM
Generally the idea of exploiting extra terestrial bodies such as the moon mars or asteroids would yeild large amounts of material such as metals and various chemicals and minerals.

The chances of fossil fuels being discovered are very remote however even on mars as it is unlikely that there was ever much or any of the kinds of life forms needed to form this. The only real evidence of past life that has even been suggested is bacteria and evidence for this can not be conclusively proven.

The one problem with this is that at the moment space travel is far to expensive to justify this as there are no essential resources in space that are not available on earth.

In principal of course we have to use resources from other planets if we are ever going to have human colonies away from the earth.
Andy

Pekings Divine5
March 3rd, 2004, 04:22 AM
There are natural resources found on Mars. Coal and iron and who knows what else (if there was life there probebly even oil)

What if multinationals like Shell would claim peaces of Mars to mine. Or Arabian sjeiks draining water from Europe (the moon).

The benefits of these exampels would be that metal would be as cheap as plastic and the Arabian world and more deserts would be as green as the gardens of Eden.

But in the case of Europe, sientists are buissy building a satelite to investigate life under the European ice.

What should be allowed?


Anyone recall this story >>>
a 2500 Km diamond found in space!!?
http://www.sundayherald.com/39964

Just like it happened in the past, once this gold rush fever strikes there will be no stopping the madness. Gems, Oil, Coal, Gold, Plutonium, Steel, Uranium it will be another land grab for resources. The Romans, Chinese, Vietnamese, the British, French, Spanish, USA fighting grabbing the N and South American land in the past. Who is to say it won't happen in Space?

Kirsten
March 16th, 2004, 05:20 PM
Good! I hope a land/resource grab does happen!

Unlike humans' previous exploits, it is likely that we won't wind up killing native moral agents this time round.

Imo O. Uche
March 18th, 2004, 04:19 AM
[FONT=Arial Narrow][SIZE=2]:( There are natural resources found on Mars. Coal and iron and who knows what else (if there was life there probebly even oil)

Frank, I want to assure you that anything is possible with Gd on our side. Remember, in Luke 1:37 "For with God nothing shall be impossible". Also, converting the Arabian desert into river with green leaves like Eden is also possible because God promised to do just that in Isaiah 43:19 "... and rivers in the desert"

At the same time, the resources/ spirit of God to the exploits has been deposited to us which is well stated in Exodus 31:3-5 "And I have filled him with the Spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, to devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass, & in cutting of stones, to set them and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship"

If that is the case, we are going to do exploits because the bible says that those who know their God shall be strong and do exploits.

All the best,
Imo.









What if multinationals like Shell would claim peaces of Mars to mine. Or Arabian sjeiks draining water from Europe (the moon).

The benefits of these exampels would be that metal would be as cheap as plastic and the Arabian world and more deserts would be as green as the gardens of Eden.

But in the case of Europe, sientists are buissy building a satelite to investigate life under the European ice.

What should be allowed?

velojym
September 1st, 2004, 08:52 AM
Just had to get a couple bits in there.
I should hope that by the time we've established a (real) presence in space, fossil fuels will be obsoleted by superior means.
As it is so often hyped by Activists, resources on Earth are finite, and the best ways to reduce their consumption are with technology and the mining of those materials on the less 'pretty' worlds (as well as the various chunks of iron and rock floating about, some of which wouldn't think twice about breakdancing with our nice little planet).
I say, let's go! What sort of societal pressure would you prefer? War or a Frontier?
(otherwise we'll stagnate and wither, as some civilizations have done in the past, but now on a planetary scale) :eek:

JediJosh
October 1st, 2004, 07:58 AM
One slight problem with this whole discussion....

Until we have a very cheap method of raising these said resources outside of the gravity well of the planet (be it Mars or Earth) it would cost more to lift the resources off the planet than they would sell for back on Earth.

Hence the logic behind the Space Elevator concept. Extremely cheap to orbit flight. Just need to perfect those diamond nanotube fibers now....